Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) on Adapting
Major Components of 1948-1960 Ford Trucks
Disclaimer and Foreword
The
article below is a compilation of information found in hundreds of
posts in the Ford Truck Enthusiasts (FTE) 1948-1960 Truck Forum.
The authors and editors of this article have directly contributed
little, if any, of the actual content. In fact, some say they are
all as dumb as posts. That said, every effort has been made to
ensure the information from the forum has been summarized as accurately
as possible. The authors and editors make no guarantees, however, as to
the accuracy of any of the information. Batteries not
included. Your mileage may vary. Don’t run with
scissors.
Primary Author -
R. M. Ferguson
Introduction
Unlike
normal FAQ articles, this one is fairly long-winded. This due in part
to the complexity of the subjects covered, and in part to my inability
to be brief on any subject. It is based almost exclusively on
existing threads in the Ford Truck Enthusiasts (FTE) 1948 – 1960
Ford Truck Forum dealing with the topics. A search of the forum
using the subject keywords like “radiator” or “gas
tank” will bring you an average of 225 separate notes on each of
these topics.
Q.
What is camber?
A.
The angle between the plane of
a wheel’s circumference and a vertical line, measured in degrees
and minutes. The top of a car wheel tilts inward when the camber
is negative, outward when it is positive.
Q.
What is caster?
A.
The angle between the vehicle
steering axis and a vertical line, as viewed from the side, measured in
degrees and minutes. Think of your spindle tilting forward (negative
caster) or backward (positive caster).
Q.
What’s the difference in length between a C4 transmission, a C6
transmission, and an AOD transmission?
A.
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Transmission
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Overall Length
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Distance to the Mount
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C4
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30.5 inches
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20.25 inches
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C6
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33.5 inches
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22.5 inches
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AOD and AODE
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30.75 inches
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22.25 inches
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Q. What year of Toyota 4x4
steering box is adaptable to the 1948-1960 F1/F-100?
A. 1979 through early 1984 Toyota 4x4
steering boxes will work. This substitution requires a modified
pitman arm available from CPP or Mid-Fifty. Some users consider
this a substantial improvement over the stock steering system.
On the F-1/F-100 models for the
1948-1952 and 1956-1960 years, the stock fuel tank is located behind
the seat inside the cab. On the F-100 models for the 1953-1955
years, the stock fuel tank is mounted under the cab on the
driver’s side with the filler going up through the driver’s
side rear cab corner. It seems all panel trucks 1948 - 1960 had a
long rectangular tank located between the frame and the drive shaft
under the driver’s side of the cab.
It is a common modification for the
F-1/F-100 models to move the fuel tank from the cab to the rear of the
vehicle – behind the rear axle and between the frame rails
– as is the norm on most current vehicles. There are several
reasons for this including:
·
Getting fumes out of the cab
·
Getting that big container of explosive
liquid away from the cab or cab area
·
Increasing in-cab storage space or space for
seating
·
Replacing an old rusty tank.
The shapes of the stock fuel tanks do
not lend themselves to this relocation, so people look for newer tanks
that will fit. There are numerous alternatives – custom
made tanks in plastic or metal or OEM style replacement tanks from
modern vehicles. For all years (1948 through 1960), the free
width between the rear frame rails, inside edge to inside edge, is
between 29 and 30 inches.
There are two basic ways of
determining what tank will fit your application. The first is to
double check the space between your frame rails to see what dimensions
you need and then go to a website like http://www.spectrapremiumindustries.com/
or http://www.gastanks.com/ and
search through their wonderful online catalogs. These catalogs
provide dimensions and pictures of the various fuel tanks. These
vendors supply a lot of the auto parts chains, so their stock is
extensive and the pricing is a lot better than having a tank custom
made. It is very important to give some thought to where your
filler neck will be exiting the vehicle when you pick a tank.
The second method of locating a tank
that will fit is to simply copy what others have done. Here are
some alternatives that have been used by members of this forum with
good results.
We all understand the limitations of a
tight budget and that many folks prefer using parts from wrecking
yards. Be aware, however, that new OEM replacement tanks are so
economically priced that it is almost foolish to spend money on a used
tank that definitely gives off fuel fumes. This is definitely
something to consider while you’re doing any welding near the
tank (mounts, etc.). A used tank may have many pinholes in it, be
rusted on the interior, or contain debris that will clog your fuel
system.
1948-1952 Trucks
The mid-1980s Chevy Blazer tank works
well in this case and comes in both 24 U.S. gallon and 31 U.S. gallon
capacities. At least one member of this FTE 1948-1960 Forum has
successfully used this tank setup.
Another alternative is the 1970
Mustang tank with a 22 U.S. gallon capacity. Apparently, the earlier
Mustang tanks discussed below will work on the 1948-1952 F-1/F-100s as
well. Since the distance between the frame rails is nearly
identical, anything that fits the 1953-1956 models should also fit the
1948-1952 models.
If you want a larger tank, the 1980
through 1986 (and possibly through 1989) full sized Ford Bronco tank is
worth looking at. At 33 U.S. gallons capacity, it measures
31.875” long x 22.25” wide x 15.75” deep in steel,
and slightly smaller in the polymer version.
Other tanks which have been used, but
for which we have little info are from the 1980s GM Suburban and
1984-1985 Isuzu Trooper.
1953-1956 Trucks
Stock replacement tanks for the
original locations are available in polymer or stainless steel from
Tanks Inc. and several other sources – but since they are limited
production they tend to be expensive.
No discussion of suitable fuel tank
alternatives for this range of years would be complete without
highlighting the early Ford Mustang tank (1965-1970). Forum
member John Niolon has thoroughly documented this tank as a replacement
in an article at www.clubfte.com/users/jniolon/mustangtank/newmustangtank.htm
(his web site has many other useful articles as well). The Mustang tank
comes in three different capacities and all are easily obtained through
http://www.gastanks.com/ or many
Mustang oriented aftermarket suppliers. Another plus with this
tank is that the Mustang sending unit will work fine with the stock 12v
fuel gauge. A few minor nits however include 1) the inlet for
filling the tank comes out the top at the rear, forcing you to bring it
up through the bed 2) the filler pipe is approximately 0.75 inch off
center towards the passenger side and 3) you may have to grind about a
0.5 inch off the bottom edge of your frame rails to fit the tank
– although this is not a big deal. A lot of people have
used this alternative, possibly more than any other single alternative.
Mustang Fuel Tank
Installation
Yet another tank option is the full
sized Chevy Van 1987-1995 fuel tank. It’s available in two
different capacities – #GM8C (Spectra Premium Industries) has a
22 U.S. gallon capacity and a second version has a 33 U.S. gallon
capacity. The difference between the two is the depth. The
length and width are the same for both tanks. If you’re
running fuel injection, you should be aware of the different system
pressures that Ford and GM use. To avoid having to deal with this
issue, with Ford engines use the non-EFI sending unit (#FG17A) and use
an inline fuel pump. The 1990 Ford Ranger works well in this
application. If you are running a GM power plant with EFI, then
go the other way and use the EFI sending unit (#FG17B) which employs an
in tank fuel pump and sending unit.
1987-1995 Full-Size
Chevy Van Fuel Tank Installation
The 1977-1981 Chevy Van tank was
offered in both 22 U.S. gallon capacity and a larger size as well. One
of our FTE forum members (Tacson, AKA Donald Walker) has some excellent
photos in his gallery which clearly show how well it fit and how he
mounted it. The only difference between the newer tank used by Ferguson
and the older model used by Walker is that the newer tank has the
filler diagonally opposite the older tank. Walker used a slightly
different mounting method – although both installations employed
the original mounting straps for the tank.
1977-1981 Full-Size
Chevy Van Fuel Tank Installation
Neither of the full-size Chevy van
installations discussed above requires any cutting of the frame
rails. However, both installations did require routing the filler
tube through the frame rails.
The alternatives already listed
provide ample, easily adapted, decent sized tanks. If you don’t
mind admitting to using less cool sounding donors, then consider the
following.
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The 1996-1999 Isuzu Trooper fuel tank
– capacity unknown. There is a question about the availability of
new sending units for this tank. However, at least one member of this
forum has used it and there is an installation “how to”
article in the June 1996 issue of Custom Classic Trucks. |
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According to a few of our forum
members, the 1961-1966 Ford Econoline Van tank is virtually identical
to the early Mustang fuel tank – but the filler tube is on the
driver’s side. |
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Going back in time a little further,
the 1957-1958 Ford passenger car fuel tank (Ford part# B7A9002B or http://www.gastanks.com/ part#
F-34B) fits easily between the rails, holds 20 U.S. gallons, has a
driver’s side filler, and can be purchased for about $200. |
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Apparently the 1970 through 1977
Mavericks and Comets are similar to the Mustang tanks but the filler
runs out the back. |
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If you want to put the tank inside the
frame and under the cab like the stock panel truck mounting location,
an 1984 Ford Ranger supposedly works. |
1957-1960 Trucks
Given
the similarity in width of the rear frame rails for the 1957-1960 and
1948-1956 model years, anything listed for the earlier trucks should
fit the 1957-1960 model years. Be aware, however, that no
information on actual installations in the later year trucks is
available at this time.
Classic
Performance Products (http://www.classicperform.com/)
offers a tank that will fit under the bed of the 1957-1960
trucks. Again, since this is a limited production item, the cost
is higher than a used tank would be. An alternative is an NOS 18
U.S. gallon tank, Ford part # COTB 9002-B available through Green Sales
in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Fuel Tank Senders and Gages
A
final consideration when using a newer or donor tank is compatibility
of the sending unit with whatever gauges you plan to use. You may need
to modify either the fuel sender or the fuel gage so that they have
matching resistance characteristics. This can end up causing more grief
than mounting the tank itself. The following information comes
mainly from Autometer (http://www.autometer.com/) and
addresses the electrical characteristics of the OEM sending units.
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Type of
Sender/Gage
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Reading Empty
(Ohms)
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Reading Full
(Ohms)
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Most pre-1965 GM
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0
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30
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Some GM trucks through 1968
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0
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30
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Most 1965 and later GM
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0
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90
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Most pre-1987 Fords and most Mopar
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16
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158
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Ford pre-1987 bi-metallic gauges
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10
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70
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Ford 1987 and later F-series trucks
magnetic gauges
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15
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160
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Note: Ford Motorsport gauges made by
Autometer require the Autometer sending unit # 3262 which operates at
240 ohms empty and 33 ohms full unlike the normal Ford compatible
senders as detailed above.
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First – a little background on
vacuum wipers. For anyone that isn’t really familiar with
vacuum wipers, it’s important to realize these things
aren’t really meant to work properly, or at all. They were
a sick joke by the Society of Automotive Engineers back in the 1930s
that an embarrassed public was too shy to say anything about until
about 30 years later. They run on vacuum … you know
… the stuff you have none of when you pull out to pass in the
rain … and the stuff you have very little of when you’re
cruisin’.
All Ford trucks from the model years
1948 through 1960 came stock with vacuum wipers. Electric wipers
were an option from 1951 on. There are several ways to address
the problems associated with vacuum wipers – and in this article
they all involve replacing the stock wipers with electric units.
Keep in mind that 1948-1954 Ford trucks were 6 V positive ground and
1956-1960 trucks were 12 V negative ground.
Replacement Kits
If your truck came with electric
wipers, you can buy new replacement electric wiper motors for all 1948
through 1960 Ford F-1/F-100 trucks. For 1948-1952 trucks you can
buy 6 volt or 12 volt replacements. For 1953-1960 trucks, you can
buy 12 volt replacements. These replacements are available at
various vendors including LMC Trucks (http://www.lmctruck.com/),
MAC’s Antique Auto Parts (http://www.macsautoparts.com/),
and Sacramento Vintage Ford (http://www.vintage-ford.com/).
Vacuum-to-Electric
Upgrade Kits
Kits to upgrade from vacuum to
electric wipers are also available. The prices for these kits
vary from about $150 to about $350 or so, depending upon whether you
need just an electric motor or a whole motor and linkage set up.
If your linkage is worn out or your truck only came with a
driver’s side wiper (or you just like to spend money for fun),
you can go to a whole new kit including a heavy duty motor, new
linkage, mounting hardware, etc.
Sacramento Vintage Ford sells such a
kit for the 1948-1952 trucks for about $285. The picture in their
catalog looks pretty good. They also sell a
“universal” kit, but do not indicate what years it
fits. Presumably, “universal” means it will fit 1948
through 1960 trucks. Based strictly on looking at the photo, it
doesn’t look as robust or of as high a quality as their 1948-1952
specific kit. While I have no firsthand experience with either
kit, it has been my experience that when something is advertised as
“universal”, that means it fits everything equally poorly.
Another alternative is Newport Wipers (http://www.newportwipers.com/).
They make electric kits for 1948 through 1955 trucks. More than one
member of the 1948-1960 FTE Forum has used their wipers and mentioned
that they are top quality. Like anything in life, you get what you pay
for, and these kits ain’t cheap.
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Newport Part Numbers
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| Year(s) |
Part Number |
Description |
| 1948-1950 |
NE4850FT |
Motor, switch, and wiring harness |
| 1951-1952 |
NE5152FT |
Motor, switch, and wiring harness |
| 1951-1952 |
NE5152FTE |
Motor, switch, wiring harness, linkage |
| 1953-1955 |
NE5355FT |
Motor, switch, and wiring harness |
| 1948-1960 |
14200 |
Intermittent switch |
The
cheapest aftermarket electric motor for the early trucks seems to be
one available from Speedway Motors. One of our forum members said it
was a good fit and easy to install.
Adapting Wipers from Other Vehicles
Probably
the most frugal method of upgrading your wipers is to do your shopping
at the local wrecking yard. Listed below are some options for the
various year trucks.
1948-1952
Trucks
Some
people have modified the motors and/or kits for 1951-1952 trucks to fit
the 1948-1950 models. While it is doable, expect to have some
trouble fitting the linkage around the dash support braces and the
defrost duct. You will have a lot of trouble trying to fit an
electric motor in a 1948-1950 if you are running a factory radio in the
dash (in the 1951-1952, the radio sits lower in the dash and avoids
this problem).
Electric
motors from 1960s and 1970s Triumph Spitfires, Jags and various other
British cars have also been adapted for use in the 1948-1952 truck
series. I personally have never been a fan of anything electrical
with British origins. They didn’t call Lucas the Prince of
Darkness for nothing!
1953-1955
Trucks
Jeep
Cherokees from the late 1980s through early 1990s (the ones with the
square lines) are an easy fit to the 1953-1955 trucks. Simply
enlarge the holes on the stock Ford bracket to accept the Jeep
motor. Check out these pictures from our forum member
Cowman’s (Chuck Cowman) gallery of this motor adapted to his
stock linkage.
Jeep Cherokee Wiper Motor Adapted to Stock
Linkage
A
1974 Volkswagen wiper motor is also an easy fit. Again, the holes
on the VW motor line up well with the Ford bracket, they just need a
little enlargement. Some work on the shaft arm to fit the Ford
linkage ( a couple of hours) and you’re good to go.
A
1989 Dodge Ramcharger has also been made to work. One mounting
hole had to be redrilled to mate the motor to the stock mounting
bracket. This may be the same motor as is found on the Chrysler
minivans from the 1980s and 1990s. Wiper motors from 1990 on Dodge
minivans can be adapted without a lot of work, as can the 1995 Ford
Windstar.
1974
& 1975 F100 wiper motors have been made to work as well.
These have been used with the intermittent switch from a 1980-1987
F-150 by several forum members.
1956-1960
In
1956, the wiper motor was moved to the firewall. If you decide to
move it under the dash, you’ll be cleaning up the look of your
firewall as well. One would think that adapting a motor and the
linkage that fits under the dash on a 1955 to a 1956 under the dash
installation would be easy. Unfortunately, on the 1953-1955 the
wipers rotate in the same direction and the pivot points are offset on
the cowl. On the 1956, they rotate opposite one another and the
pivot points are equidistance off the center of the cowl. The
1953-1955 to 1956 transplant can be done though - one of our forum
members is adapting the 1955 linkage to his 1956.
Check
out the gallery for forum member krautwolf (Michael Wolfe). He has a
pictorial “how to” showing his adaptation of a 1979-1983
Ford Ranger wiper motor using an F-150 switch. The pictures are
numerous and clear and the commentary is important and useful as
well.
Most
of our forum members with 1956 through 1960 trucks seem to be using
either the factory 12 volt motors or the replacement motors previously
mentioned.
Intermittent Wipers
A
final note on wipers has to do with intermittent wiper controls. We all
want our new electric windshield wipers to be intermittent just like
our wife’s or girlfriend’s car. There are several
ways to achieve this result.
There
is a brief article already in the FTE Tech Article section written by
Thomas Hogan. ( Click
here to view) It specifically covers intermittent wiper
controls on a 1973-1979 F-series, but the principle is the same on our
earlier trucks. Basically, you need the switch and the control
box. The parts were available as an option on the 1973 to 1979
F-series, so you can get them at your local parts house or your
favorite wrecking yard.
There
is another tech article entitled “Installing an intermittent two
speed push/wash windshield wiper system on a 1961-1966 Ford
pickup” by Wm Dahn. ( Click
here to view)
Mr.
Dahn was after a stealth installation – i.e. it appears stock, so
a lot of his article is devoted to adapting the knob to the later model
switch. His donor for the switch, etc. was 1984 through 1990 Ford
pickup.
Intermittent
switches are easily obtainable at parts houses or wrecking yards
– just make sure to get any related relays and controls.
The fun part begins with wiring them up to your motor. There is
an old thread on the 1948-1960 Forum that discusses this issue at some
length ( Click
here to view). In this thread, one of our members
(BlueOvalRage) was trying to help another member (fatfenders) get his
wipers wired correctly. It’s a lengthy, thorough thread that
should provide you with some useful information on the wiring involved
in adapting another motor. See krautwolf’s pictures above
and in his gallery for the right parts.
Changing
steering columns is a very popular modification. It is done mainly for
the tilt column feature, but also for more stylish appearance, built in
signal lever, and automatic transmission gear indicator. Some
things to keep in mind when looking at possible donors:
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Do you want the tilt-column feature? |
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Do you want the ignition key in the
column, or on the dash? |
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Are you running an automatic or a
manual transmission?
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Do you want the gear indicator on the
column? |
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How many speeds for your gear indicator? |
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Will the gear indicator settings line
up with the transmission shift linkage you’re using? |
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Can you get an aftermarket steering
wheel adapter for this donor? |
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Which type of wiring harness will you
be working with? (GM, Ford, and Mopar columns are wired differently) |
As with the windshield wipers, you
have several options for updating the steering column.
Replacement Columns
If you’ve got the budget, then
slick, brand new paintable or polished stainless steel/chrome units can
be bought in various lengths from Ididit, Billet Specialties, Flaming
River, and Snake River Rod & Customs. They range in price
from about $275 up to almost $600 depending upon how tricked out you
want it. As for vendors, try Jegs or Summit first. In
addition, if you’re going with column shift, they can supply a
cable assembly that connects your transmission to the column.
Summit carries one made by Lokar.
Generally speaking – if
you’re running a Mustang II style front suspension, you’ll
likely want a 32 or 35 inch column length. Otherwise, a 30 to 32 inch
column length should do the job with a conventional steering box.
Keep in mind that Ididit measures from the front/top of the wheel
adapter down to where the inner shaft ends at the first connection
(i.e. a rag joint or Borgeson type joint) on tilt/telescopic
columns. Both Ididit and Flaming River show you on their websites
exactly how to measure the length for one of their columns.
Adapting Columns
from Other Vehicles
Another option is to read this section
and go wrecking yard shopping. The downside of going this route
is you could end up with a steering column in which most of the
wearable parts are already worn out. Rebuilding a used steering
column is not cheap or easy. More than one person has dismantled
a steering column to rebuild it and not been able to put it back
together. There are an amazing number of parts inside these
buggers. However, if I haven’t scared you off yet, then
here are a whole bunch of possibilities.
1948-1952 Trucks
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1969 Lincoln Mark III – tilt, no
ignition. |
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1978-79 Ford F or E series –
tilt, integral gear indicator, no ignition switch. |
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1990 Ford Van – key on column. |
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1970s GM Van – tilt, no key,
sleek design. |
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1970s Camaro – no shifter on the
column. |
1953-1956 Trucks
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1976 Ford Torino – tilt |
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1969-1972 Chevy truck/Blazer – no
key on column (in heavy demand w/Chevy crowd) |
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1969-1981 GM Vans and motor homes |
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1984 Chevy pick up |
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1973 and newer – key on column |
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1977 through mid 1980s Chevy/GMC Van |
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1978 through mid 1980s Ford F or E
series – tilt, integral gear indicator, no ignition switch |
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1983 Ford E-150 – some have AOD
gear indicator, ignition on column |
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mid-1960s Cadillac |
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1986-1988 Cadillac – tilt and
telescopic |
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mid-1970s Camaro – no shifter on
the column, steel housing to the floor |
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1982 Pontiac Sunbird |
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1986 Jeep Laredo – GM wiring
scheme. |
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Late 1980s – early 1990s Jeep
Cherokee – GM wiring (same donor will get you a wiper motor and
intermittent relays for a 1953-1955 F-100) |
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1987 Mercury Grand Marquis |
1957-1960 Trucks
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1978 GM - tilt |
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1979 Cadillac |
The above list is not a complete
authority on what fits. It’s simply what our forum members have
used. A steering column listed under one range of truck years
above may work perfectly fine on the other ranges of years. The
Chevy then Ford vans and pick ups seem to be the most common donors
used by this group. But just about everything has been used by at
least member. Try to go with something as late model as possible
for reduced wear and ease of locating replacement parts.
One special consideration, forum member Cowman used a
1990 or so Jeep Cherokee donor (the one with the boxy lines) for both
the steering column (comes with GM wiring) and the wiper motor (and the
relays between the two that gave him intermittent wipers) in his
1954. In this neck of the woods, there are tons of these things
in wrecking yards without a lot of hot-rodders or anyone displaying any
real interest. In my mind, this is a very interesting alternative
that folks should seriously consider.
General Steering
Column Notes
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Use Borgeson (http://www.borgeson.com/) joints
to connect it all together. 30 degrees maximum on a 2 joint
system. Check their website for tips or do’s and
don’ts regarding couplers. |
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Ford, GM and Mopar all use different
wiring color codes and connectors in their columns. Keep this in
mind when ordering a wiring harness for your truck. There are
several threads in the 1948-1960 forum that provide the color codes for
the different manufacturers. |
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There are several threads in the
1948-1960 forum dealing with connecting your column to your box and
getting around those exhaust headers. |
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The neutral safety switch on Ford and
Mopar units is in the transmission, GM has it on the column. |
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For those of you that end up going with
a GM column, apparently Julianos (http://www.julianos.com/) offers a
plastic sleeve that covers all the junk on the column (ignition,
wiring, etc.). The jury is still out on whether it’s any
good. Speedway and Zigs may have similar sleeves. |
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Once again, if you’re a little
queasy about tackling this swap, head on over to John Niolon’s
website or check out the Tech Articles section of FTE. Yes, John did a
“how to” on steering columns too with pictures, lots of
pictures. |
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Provided your column pokes out through
the firewall about an inch or two (and it has to due to your
transmission linkage), the shorter column you use, the easier
it’ll be to route around headers etc to that steering box. |
There is a lot of discussion on the
forum on this topic but there are really only a couple of options that
are used. Unless you use one of these common options,
you’re pretty much on your own. The first option is a
fancy-schmancy replacement kit with a combination heater/air
conditioning unit from folks like Southern Air, Vintage Air, or Hot Rod
Air. The second option is to just rebuild your heater core and/or
replace the heater motor.
From the forum discussion, it
doesn’t look like many (or any) folks adapt OEM heater or
heater-A/C units to the 1948-1960 trucks. If you choose to
rebuild your heater, here are a few things to keep in mind.
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1948-1954 Ford trucks were 6 V positive
ground and 1956-1960 trucks were 12 V negative ground |
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Some motors will only turn one way
regardless of how they are wired. Make sure you get a reversible
motor or one that turns the right way for your heater. |
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Many wrecking yards have already pulled
a ton of heater motors and keep them on shelves. Take your old
motor along to match up against what they have. |
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New 12 volt replacement motors can be
bought from John’s F-Funhundreds at http://www.f100.com/ |
What are you looking for, a bench or
buckets? Think about whether you mind headrests sticking up above
the bottom of your rear window. Some people will accept the
appearance of the headrests sticking up above the bottom of the rear
window to get the increased comfort derived from having a
headrest. Also think about what sort of mounting you’ll use
for your seat belts (some of the newer seats have the seat belts built
right into them).
Obviously, primary concerns are
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Fit and easy of mounting |
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Comfort |
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Cost |
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Appearance |
There are several outfits that make
really nice looking and comfortable seats for our trucks – Teas
Design, Rod Doors and Glide just to name a few. If you’ve
got the money they will supply something that looks sharp, fits well,
and can be covered in just about anything you could ask for.
If you haven’t got that kind of
coin, then you might want to hit the wrecking yards with a mind to find
something suitable that simply needs to be reupholstered and installed
in your baby.
Here are some measurements that you
might want to consider when looking for a new seat.
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Inside cab width from door panel to
door panel (where the seat bottom is the widest)
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1948-1952 F-1 = 53.5 inches |
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1953-1956 F-100 = 58 inches |
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Distance between the door handle tips
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1949 F-1 = 51.5 inches |
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Distance between the fat part of the
door handles
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1949 F-1 = 45-5/8 inches |
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Distance across the cab at the rear
door post
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1949 F-1 = 57 inches |
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Distance from door panel to door panel
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1957-1960 F-100 = 62 inches |
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Distance from door handle to door
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1957-1960 F-100 = 56 inches |
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Stock bench seat width
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1960 F-100 = 59 inches |
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There seems to be an issue
(particularly found by older members of the forum) with the space
between the steering wheel and the seat shrinking over time, resulting
in limited intestinal accommodation. Fortunately the newer seats
use a different type of spring so they tend to be thinner in the
back. This provides more room in that area. This is
something to think about before you buy a big, fat seat out of a
Cadillac or Lincoln or some other land yacht. With a newer seat,
you will usually pick up storage space under the seat bottom as well.
The following suggestions are based
upon input from this forum. There is also an article in the
August 2004 issue of Classic Truck that deals with this subject and
contains many pictures of the suggested alternative seats. Note
that we are not spending time discussing bucket seats. Once you
ditch the console, you can pretty much fit any bucket into any truck,
although generally you’ll end up with a built in headrest
sticking up in your back window.
1948-1952 Trucks
– Seat Width No More Than 52 Inches
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2000 Ford Escort buckets |
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Mid/late 1980s to 1996 Ford Ranger or
Broncos
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60/40 bench or buckets |
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Perfect fit |
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Used by many |
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Bench is 51” wide at it’s
widest point |
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Back folds forward |
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No headrests to poke up in the back
window |
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2-door donors fold, 4-door donors
don’t |
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Very popular with members of the forum |
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1989 through mid 1990s Ford Explorer
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Buckets or 60/40 bench |
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Middle or rear seats out of a 1996
Dodge Caravan |
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1996 and newer Chevy Astro Van |
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1996 and newer full sized GM van middle
or rear seats |
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1995 and newer Toyota Tacoma |
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1994 and newer Chevy S-10/Sonoma |
1953-1960 Trucks
– Seat Width No More Than 58 Inches
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2001 F-150 |
NOTE:
There are several different styles of bench seats used in the late
1980s through late 1990s GM trucks – quasi-buckets, 60/40s and
full benches. They all tend to have thin backs which helps to
increase leg space where needed. Some have built in arms rests
and a level of seat bottom sculpturing to them, some don’t.
These seats are also well liked by a number of the members of this
forum.
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1988-1998 GM truck seats
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Excellent looking brackets |
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Easy to adapt |
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Headrests tend to be removable |
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1988-1994 Chevy Silverado bench
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No headrest |
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Fold down arm rest |
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Very stylish |
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1997 and newer F-150 bench
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Has a built in headrest |
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Brackets are a bit of a challenge |
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Late 1990s Chevy Suburban |
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1987 Chevy pickup bench |
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The 2000 and newer Suburban
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60/40 bench |
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Removable headrests |
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Not the most stylish thing |
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Brackets are clunky looking |
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The
1999 and newer GM Silverado 40/20/40 “bench” is an
interesting possibility. It’s 60 inches wide, but it’s
really more like two buckets with a “jump seat”
between. You could easily omit the middle section and put in a
narrower console or nothing. They do have built shoulder belts,
saving you the issue of mounting the shoulder restraint to the wall
between the rear window and the doors. You might fit this whole
set up into a 1953-1960 F-100. The 1994 through 2001 Dodge truck
also has a similar set up, though less stylish than the GM
version. It will have the same pluses and minuses.
Another
issue to consider is that you need to build some sort of bracket to
mount your new seat(s) to your truck. If you’re using the
1988-1998 GM seats, it’s pretty straightforward. Just look
at the stock GM mounting brackets and it’s a no brainer.
However, if you’re using Ford seats or buckets, this can get a
little tricky. For a few good pictures of the brackets one member
made to install a later model seat check out this thread. www.ford-trucks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114729
The work was done by KAI - our German buddy. He was putting a
1980 F-350 seat in a 1954 F-100. His brackets deal quite nicely
with the weird bend/angle in the front of the stock Ford
brackets. They are wonderful in their simplicity and could easily
be modified to compensate for a shorter driver.
For
an excellent example of brackets fabricated to hold the 1996-2000
Ranger 60/40 bench/bucket, check out these made by Scott123 (Scott
Jones). He has provided pictures and plans, so you could make a copy of
the “Scott123 Super-Duper seat frame 2000” if you wish.
Folks
are always looking to upgrade their radiators. The old radiator
can be leaky or marginal in its cooling capacity. Stock radiators
run at about 4 PSI versus modern engines which work at 15 PSI or
so. Putting 12 to 15 PSI on an old radiator is just asking for
coolant all over your driveway. Although you can take some
measurements and pull something at a wrecking yard, but you may be
getting a leaky radiator with little or no guaranty on it. Most
folks buy a brand new radiator and there are numerous alternatives
available.
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You
can buy a fancy-schmancy aluminum one from a street rod shop for $450
or more
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You
can buy a stock reproduction one from someone like LMC, MACs, or
Mid-Fifties for $300 to $400
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You
take measurements and buy a new aftermarket radiator meant to be an OEM
replacement in a more modern vehicle
The
first two options are fairly straightforward – just remember to
get a radiator that is designed for your truck so the size is correct
and the radiator hoses enter and exit in the correct places.
If
you want to exercise the third option, take your measurements to
websites such as http://www.spectrumindustries.com/,
http://www.radiatorbarn.com/, http://discountradiators.com/,
or http://www.usradiator.com/ and
start looking around for something that comes close to your
measurements. Spectrum shows where the inlet and outlet are and
what diameter they are as well as the overall dimensions. To save
some time in this process, some common donors are listed below for the
various truck years.
1948 to 1952
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The 4-row radiator for a 1972-1979
Dodge D-100 pick up with 318 CID engine. Measures approximately
26.25” wide by 18” tall. Outlets are top left
1.5” hose and bottom right 1.75” hose. |
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The 4-row radiator for a 1970 Ford
F-100. Measures 26.25” wide X 19.25” tall.
Outlets are top right 1.75”hose and bottom left 2.0” hose. |
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1976 Mustang with 351 CID engine.
Measures 22” wide by 21” tall (excluding the neck).
Fits the radiator support easily. Outlets are top right and
bottom right. |
Since these replacements may be
shorter and/or narrower that the original, you’ll need to fill
the gap at the top and/or sides to ensure proper air flow through the
radiator rather than around it.
1953-1956
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The 1967-1979 Ford F-100 V-8 radiator
(Radpro part number 433, Spectra part number CU318 or CU320, AutoZone
part number 436002 or 433433). Measures 26.375” wide by
19.25” high. Outlets top right 1.5” hose and bottom
right 1.75” hose. Try AutoZone hoses L-222 upper and M-078
lower. This is probably the most popular substitute for the 1953
to 1955s. It fits the stock radiator support nicely. You
just need to relocate a few mounting holes in the radiator
brackets. It has ample cooling ability and a moderate price. |
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The 1997-2000 Explorer radiator meant
for the 4.0 DOHC engine. This is a 4-row aluminum unit with
plastic tanks. It requires a bit of playing around with mounts,
but nothing too difficult. |
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Modine part number 395 is a 2-row and
part numbers 433 and 545 are 3-row. 4-row versions of the 433 and
the 545 are also available. These units measure 24 to 26.5”
wide. Several folks have raved about how nicely they fit. |
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1969 Dodge Charger |
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1977 Ford Econoline |
1957-1960
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Auto-Krafters will apparently sell you
a 4-row for your truck made by US Radiator but at a better price than
you can get directly from US radiator. This radiator is not an
exact copy of the original 1957-1960 radiators visually, but it does
come in 2- and 4-row and the 4-row will definitely cool that stocker or
warmed up small block. Apparently they are an exact fit
physically. According to one of the forum members, this radiator
will fit the 1953-1956s trucks as well without much effort. |
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Modine part number 395 for the 1974
F-150 without air-conditioning. |
General Radiator
Notes
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The fan shroud from a 1978 F-150 or
Bronco seems to work well with our trucks. Do not try running
without a fan shroud. In the worst case, build your own. |
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Something to keep in mind, especially
if you’re running a Ford small block. Ford took perverse
pleasure in using many different water pumps on this series of
engines. Some are short, some are long, some point towards the
passenger side, and some to the driver’s side. Make sure
you noted where you want the radiator outlets when you’re
ordering a radiator. |
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Do not even think about removing that
big huge U-shaped bracket that the factory radiator bolts to. This
thing ties your whole front clip together. Also, make sure the
X-braces across the front of the radiator are reinstalled or duplicated
in some fashion. |
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Something to think about before you buy
an aluminum radiator – What if you should spring a leak in East
Armpit, Iowa at 8:00 p.m. – who’s going to weld that
ALUMINUM radiator for you? Brass or copper won’t be a
problem, but aluminum might make for a long night. |
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If you’re going to run an
electric fan on the radiator to avoid the power robbing mechanical fan,
try to use a puller fan behind the radiator rather than a pusher fan in
front as it works more efficiently. Generally speaking a
12” fan capable of 1200 CFM will do the job unless you’re
running a built up 460. |
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Don’t forget an overflow tank
– either a discolored OEM plastic unit stained with overflowed
coolant or one of those sporty looking billet units. The outlet
from your radiator needs to be a little above the overflow tank inlet. |
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Did I say, run a fan shroud? Run
a fan shroud! |
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